CALIcon09: Tools for Change, U of CO Law School, Boulder, June 18 - 20

Since I'm getting pinged daily about this, and John is still polishing
the official announcement, I thought I'd just fire off this brief
message for all interested teknoids.

CALI's 19th Annual Conference for Law School Computing is scheduled
for Thursday to Saturday, June 18 - 20, 2009 at the University of
Colorado Law School, Boulder CO. This year's theme is Tools for
Change. Details, including links for registering and submitting
session proposals, are at http://www.cali.org/conference.

John should have a more formal announcement and call for presenters
shortly, but avoid the rush and register now.

Thanks,
Elmer.

RE: CALIcon09: Tools for Change, U of CO Law School, Boulder

Well, I guess John was done polishing the official announcement:) Sorry for the extra traffic. Maybe everyone should register twice... Anyway, see y'all in Boulder.

Elmer.

Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Hello everyone,
At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a demonstration
of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids archives and
I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for sharing
your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear projection. I'm
wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.

Thanks for any information you can provide.
Irene

___________________________________
Irene R. Good
Director of Academic Technology
Suffolk University Law School
120 Tremont Street
Boston, Massachusetts 02108
617-305-1772
irgood@suffolk.edu

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Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
both at the same time.

-Stuart

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a demonstration
> of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids archives and
> I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for sharing
> your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear projection. I'm
> wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
>
> Thanks for any information you can provide.
> Irene
>
> ___________________________________
> Irene R. Good
> Director of Academic Technology
> Suffolk University Law School
> 120 Tremont Street
> Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> 617-305-1772
> irgood@suffolk.edu
>
>
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Intelliboard/Smart Boards

And less expensive as well.
Ken

Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation
where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be the
tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so forth, so
it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you use to
annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...

Bob

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And less expensive as well.
Ken

RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection, and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not all, of the features you mentioned.
Ken

ken.hirsh@uc.edu
(513) 556-0159

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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...

Bob

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Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

And less expensive as well.
Ken

Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have sympodiums.

They are probably as expensive as a tablet PC, and I have had to replace
2 of 6 of them over the last 3 years. The currently available model is
different from the ones we got, so hopefully they were fixed.

The problem they had caused me fits- several times an hour, at random
times, the computer behaved as if someone had left-clicked the mouse,
when they were not even using it or the Sympodium. Took me a few weeks
to realize it was the Sympodium. Initially I had convinced myself that
the wireless mouse was receiving a spurious signal. Caused PowerPoints
to advance randomly and the wrong links to be clicked on web pages.

Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh) wrote:
>
> I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large
> dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection,
> and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over
> time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while
> am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider
> choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not
> all, of the features you mentioned.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
>
> (513) 556-0159
>
>
>
> *From:* teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Bennett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
> *To:* Teknoids
> *Subject:* Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
>
> I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation
> where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
> sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be
> the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so
> forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you
> use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
> *"Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)" <hirshkh@ucmail.uc.edu>*
> Sent by: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
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> Subject
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> Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
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>
> And less expensive as well.
> Ken
>
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> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to
> annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
> Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh,
> Kenneth (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods
> may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my
> experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where
> a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a
> feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of
> the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or
> highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video
> and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the
> instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television
> commentators use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration
> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids
> archives and
> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for
> sharing
> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear
> projection. I'm
> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
> > Irene
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Irene R. Good
> > Director of Academic Technology
> > Suffolk University Law School
> > 120 Tremont Street
> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> > 617-305-1772
> > irgood@suffolk.edu
> >
> >
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Intelliboard/Smart Boards

The sympodiums have a 5 year warranty? Does anyone reliable make a 17"
tablet pc?

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We have sympodiums.

They are probably as expensive as a tablet PC, and I have had to replace
2 of 6 of them over the last 3 years. The currently available model is
different from the ones we got, so hopefully they were fixed.

The problem they had caused me fits- several times an hour, at random
times, the computer behaved as if someone had left-clicked the mouse,
when they were not even using it or the Sympodium. Took me a few weeks
to realize it was the Sympodium. Initially I had convinced myself that
the wireless mouse was receiving a spurious signal. Caused PowerPoints
to advance randomly and the wrong links to be clicked on web pages.

Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh) wrote:
>
> I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large
> dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection,
> and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over
> time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while
> am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider
> choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not
> all, of the features you mentioned.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
>
> (513) 556-0159
>
>
>
> *From:* teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Bennett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
> *To:* Teknoids
> *Subject:* Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
>
> I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation
> where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
> sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be
> the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so
> forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you
> use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
> *"Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)" <hirshkh@ucmail.uc.edu>*
> Sent by: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
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>
> And less expensive as well.
> Ken
>
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> <teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
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> <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
> Sent: Thu Feb 19 11:03:34 2009
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to
> annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
> Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh,
> Kenneth (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods
> may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my
> experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where
> a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a
> feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of
> the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or
> highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video
> and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the
> instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television
> commentators use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration
> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids
> archives and
> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for
> sharing
> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear
> projection. I'm
> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of
this.
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
> > Irene
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Irene R. Good
> > Director of Academic Technology
> > Suffolk University Law School
> > 120 Tremont Street
> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> > 617-305-1772
> > irgood@suffolk.edu
> >
> >
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I'm curious - while I definitely see the value of the annotating live
presentations, do you all see that feature getting much use in law
school classrooms? What about the ability to capture and save those
annotations?

Here we have mostly Nomad podiums, which do have a touch screen monitor
with basic annotation features, but it can't save the annotations. I
don't see the touch screen annotation used much here, so I'm just
wondering if that's a worthwhile feature for law schools.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Farrell, JD MS

Research/Instructional Technology Librarian

Florida State Law - Research Center

Tallahassee, FL 32306
850-644-1394
efarrell@law.fsu.edu

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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

The sympodiums have a 5 year warranty? Does anyone reliable make a 17"
tablet pc?

Glen McBeth <glen.mcbeth@washburn.edu>
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Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have sympodiums.

They are probably as expensive as a tablet PC, and I have had to replace

2 of 6 of them over the last 3 years. The currently available model is
different from the ones we got, so hopefully they were fixed.

The problem they had caused me fits- several times an hour, at random
times, the computer behaved as if someone had left-clicked the mouse,
when they were not even using it or the Sympodium. Took me a few weeks
to realize it was the Sympodium. Initially I had convinced myself that
the wireless mouse was receiving a spurious signal. Caused PowerPoints
to advance randomly and the wrong links to be clicked on web pages.

Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh) wrote:
>
> I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large
> dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection,
> and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over
> time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while

> am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider
> choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not
> all, of the features you mentioned.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
>
> (513) 556-0159
>
>
>
> *From:* teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
] *On Behalf Of *Robert

> Bennett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
> *To:* Teknoids
> *Subject:* Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
>
> I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation

> where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
> sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be

> the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so
> forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you
> use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
> *"Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)" <hirshkh@ucmail.uc.edu>*
> Sent by: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
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> Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
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>
> And less expensive as well.
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> <teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
> To: Teknoids <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>; Teknoids
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> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to
> annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
> Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh,
> Kenneth (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods
> may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my
> experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where
> a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a
> feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of

> the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or
> highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video
> and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the
> instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television
> commentators use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu>
wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration
> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids
> archives and
> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for

> sharing
> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear
> projection. I'm
> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of
this.
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
> > Irene
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Irene R. Good
> > Director of Academic Technology
> > Suffolk University Law School
> > 120 Tremont Street
> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> > 617-305-1772
> > irgood@suffolk.edu
> >
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

PowerPoint is a SMART Aware application, so if you annotate a PPT file,
you are given an option to save your annotations in the file.

Jeff Whitcomb
Technology Services Manager
Cumberland School of Law - Samford University
205-726-4662

P Think before you print

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Farrell,
Elizabeth
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:02 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I'm curious - while I definitely see the value of the annotating live
presentations, do you all see that feature getting much use in law
school classrooms? What about the ability to capture and save those
annotations?

Here we have mostly Nomad podiums, which do have a touch screen monitor
with basic annotation features, but it can't save the annotations. I
don't see the touch screen annotation used much here, so I'm just
wondering if that's a worthwhile feature for law schools.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Farrell, JD MS

Research/Instructional Technology Librarian

Florida State Law - Research Center

Tallahassee, FL 32306
850-644-1394
efarrell@law.fsu.edu

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Bennett
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

The sympodiums have a 5 year warranty? Does anyone reliable make a 17"
tablet pc?

Glen McBeth <glen.mcbeth@washburn.edu>
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02/19/09 11:41 AM

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Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have sympodiums.

They are probably as expensive as a tablet PC, and I have had to replace

2 of 6 of them over the last 3 years. The currently available model is
different from the ones we got, so hopefully they were fixed.

The problem they had caused me fits- several times an hour, at random
times, the computer behaved as if someone had left-clicked the mouse,
when they were not even using it or the Sympodium. Took me a few weeks
to realize it was the Sympodium. Initially I had convinced myself that
the wireless mouse was receiving a spurious signal. Caused PowerPoints
to advance randomly and the wrong links to be clicked on web pages.

Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh) wrote:
>
> I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large
> dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection,
> and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over
> time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while

> am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider
> choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not
> all, of the features you mentioned.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
>
> (513) 556-0159
>
>
>
> *From:* teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
] *On Behalf Of *Robert

> Bennett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
> *To:* Teknoids
> *Subject:* Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
>
> I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation

> where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
> sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be

> the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so
> forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you
> use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
> *"Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)" <hirshkh@ucmail.uc.edu>*
> Sent by: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And less expensive as well.
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> <teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
> To: Teknoids <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>; Teknoids
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> Sent: Thu Feb 19 11:03:34 2009
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to
> annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
> Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh,
> Kenneth (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods
> may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my
> experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where
> a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a
> feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of

> the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or
> highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video
> and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the
> instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television
> commentators use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu>
wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration
> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids
> archives and
> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for

> sharing
> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear
> projection. I'm
> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of
this.
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
> > Irene
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Irene R. Good
> > Director of Academic Technology
> > Suffolk University Law School
> > 120 Tremont Street
> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> > 617-305-1772
> > irgood@suffolk.edu
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Our legal writing professors all use SmartBoards in our smaller
classrooms. I don't think any of them save the annotations. We also had
StarPanels in the podiums of our larger classrooms. Some faculty used the
touch screen feature, but nobody really used anything else. I've just
recently had a request for the annotation feature in one of the
classrooms.

Margaret Thomas
Information Technology Manager
University of Dayton School of Law
Room 416
300 College Park
Dayton, Ohio 45469-2772
937-229-4189

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I’m curious – while I definitely see the value of the annotating live
presentations, do you all see that feature getting much use in law school
classrooms? What about the ability to capture and save those annotations?

Here we have mostly Nomad podiums, which do have a touch screen monitor
with basic annotation features, but it can’t save the annotations. I don’t
see the touch screen annotation used much here, so I’m just wondering if
that’s a worthwhile feature for law schools.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Farrell, JD MS
Research/Instructional Technology Librarian
Florida State Law - Research Center
Tallahassee, FL 32306
850-644-1394
efarrell@law.fsu.edu

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [
mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Bennett
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

The sympodiums have a 5 year warranty? Does anyone reliable make a 17"
tablet pc?

Glen McBeth <glen.mcbeth@washburn.edu>
Sent by: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
02/19/09 11:41 AM

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Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have sympodiums.

They are probably as expensive as a tablet PC, and I have had to replace
2 of 6 of them over the last 3 years. The currently available model is
different from the ones we got, so hopefully they were fixed.

The problem they had caused me fits- several times an hour, at random
times, the computer behaved as if someone had left-clicked the mouse,
when they were not even using it or the Sympodium. Took me a few weeks
to realize it was the Sympodium. Initially I had convinced myself that
the wireless mouse was receiving a spurious signal. Caused PowerPoints
to advance randomly and the wrong links to be clicked on web pages.

Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh) wrote:
>
> I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large
> dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection,
> and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over
> time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while
> am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider
> choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not
> all, of the features you mentioned.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
>
> (513) 556-0159
>
>
>
> *From:* teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Bennett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
> *To:* Teknoids
> *Subject:* Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
>
> I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation
> where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
> sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be
> the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so
> forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you
> use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
> *"Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)" <hirshkh@ucmail.uc.edu>*
> Sent by: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
>
> 02/19/09 10:08 AM
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> And less expensive as well.
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> <teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
> To: Teknoids <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>; Teknoids
> <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
> Sent: Thu Feb 19 11:03:34 2009
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to
> annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
> Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh,
> Kenneth (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods
> may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my
> experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where
> a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a
> feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of
> the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or
> highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video
> and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the
> instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television
> commentators use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration
> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids
> archives and
> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for
> sharing
> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear
> projection. I'm
> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of
this.
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
> > Irene
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Irene R. Good
> > Director of Academic Technology
> > Suffolk University Law School
> > 120 Tremont Street
> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> > 617-305-1772
> > irgood@suffolk.edu
> >
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Our faculty liked the Sympodiums and wanted to have annotation capability in our new classrooms. The problem was that we switched to 16:9 aspect ratio and Sympodiums did not support it. We installed Boeckeler systems and it give us the added advantage of annotation over any source we hook up (DVD, doc cam, guest laptop, etc…). In the last couple of weeks Extron announced a new product that I would have considered had it been available. Below are links to both systems:
http://www.pointmaker.com/cms/index.cfm/path/17933/41897/42751/
http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=annotator&subtype=290

Regards,
Dan

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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Margaret.Thomas@notes.udayton.edu
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:26 PM
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Our legal writing professors all use SmartBoards in our smaller classrooms. I don't think any of them save the annotations. We also had StarPanels in the podiums of our larger classrooms. Some faculty used the touch screen feature, but nobody really used anything else. I've just recently had a request for the annotation feature in one of the classrooms.

Margaret Thomas
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I’m curious – while I definitely see the value of the annotating live presentations, do you all see that feature getting much use in law school classrooms? What about the ability to capture and save those annotations?

Here we have mostly Nomad podiums, which do have a touch screen monitor with basic annotation features, but it can’t save the annotations. I don’t see the touch screen annotation used much here, so I’m just wondering if that’s a worthwhile feature for law schools.

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The sympodiums have a 5 year warranty? Does anyone reliable make a 17" tablet pc?

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We have sympodiums.

They are probably as expensive as a tablet PC, and I have had to replace
2 of 6 of them over the last 3 years. The currently available model is
different from the ones we got, so hopefully they were fixed.

The problem they had caused me fits- several times an hour, at random
times, the computer behaved as if someone had left-clicked the mouse,
when they were not even using it or the Sympodium. Took me a few weeks
to realize it was the Sympodium. Initially I had convinced myself that
the wireless mouse was receiving a spurious signal. Caused PowerPoints
to advance randomly and the wrong links to be clicked on web pages.

Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh) wrote:
>
> I think Mo and I were comparing it to a smart board, which is a large
> dedicated touch screen device customarily driven by rear projection,
> and at least in earlier versions prone to image deterioration over
> time and a continual need to realign the touch points. However, while
> am not familiar with Sympodium, using a tablet PC gives you a wider
> choice in vendors. The Windows tablet software provides most, if not
> all, of the features you mentioned.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
>
> (513) 556-0159
>
>
>
> *From:* teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
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> Bennett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
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>
>
>
>
> I'm very interested in this subject but I'm not grasping the situation
> where using a tablet pc would be easier and less expensive than a
> sympodium. Are you suggesting that the resident PC in the classroom be
> the tablet? It would need to be wired into video, power, usb, and so
> forth, so it's not like it becomes portable. What software would you
> use to annotate, screen capture, record sessions, etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
> *"Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)" <hirshkh@ucmail.uc.edu>*
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> And less expensive as well.
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> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to
> annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
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> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
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> ________________________________
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> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh,
> Kenneth (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods
> may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my
> experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where
> a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a
> feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of
> the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or
> highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video
> and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the
> instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television
> commentators use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration
> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids
> archives and
> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for
> sharing
> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear
> projection. I'm
> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
> > Irene
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Irene R. Good
> > Director of Academic Technology
> > Suffolk University Law School
> > 120 Tremont Street
> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> > 617-305-1772
> > irgood@suffolk.edu
> >
> >
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have four pointmaker systems in three classrooms and the courtroom. It
doesn't really work. It's horribly slow and unresponsive to either finger
or stylus and causes our rooms to take up to twenty minutes to startup
(while it displays the white pointmaker screen). Perhaps we just have four
bad units? The other issue is the inability to capture (image or video)
what's drawn on the screen, so it's useless for court. I would imagine the
extron annotator has the same limitation?

Your sympodiums don't support widescreen though... are they the current
version? That would be an issue as we're starting to go widescreen.

Bob

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Our faculty liked the Sympodiums and wanted to have annotation capability
in our new classrooms. The problem was that we switched to 16:9 aspect
ratio and Sympodiums did not support it. We installed Boeckeler systems
and it give us the added advantage of annotation over any source we hook
up (DVD, doc cam, guest laptop, etc…). In the last couple of weeks Extron
announced a new product that I would have considered had it been
available. Below are links to both systems:
http://www.pointmaker.com/cms/index.cfm/path/17933/41897/42751/
http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=annotator&subtype=290

Regards,
Dan

RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

The Extron Annotator has a built in scan converter. From their site:

Input video is scaled and made available in a variety of output formats, including analog RGBHV and Extron MTP - Mini Twisted Pair, as well as optional DVI, HD-SDI, or scan-converted video.

Maybe run it all into a PIP if you want to capture the room video camera and the annotator at the same time…

http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=pip444

or

http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=pip422

depending on how many windows you’d like to display max…

-Mike

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Bennett
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have four pointmaker systems in three classrooms and the courtroom. It doesn't really work. It's horribly slow and unresponsive to either finger or stylus and causes our rooms to take up to twenty minutes to startup (while it displays the white pointmaker screen). Perhaps we just have four bad units? The other issue is the inability to capture (image or video) what's drawn on the screen, so it's useless for court. I would imagine the extron annotator has the same limitation?

Your sympodiums don't support widescreen though... are they the current version? That would be an issue as we're starting to go widescreen.

Bob

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Our faculty liked the Sympodiums and wanted to have annotation capability in our new classrooms. The problem was that we switched to 16:9 aspect ratio and Sympodiums did not support it. We installed Boeckeler systems and it give us the added advantage of annotation over any source we hook up (DVD, doc cam, guest laptop, etc…). In the last couple of weeks Extron announced a new product that I would have considered had it been available. Below are links to both systems:
http://www.pointmaker.com/cms/index.cfm/path/17933/41897/42751/
http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=annotator&subtype=290

Regards,
Dan

RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Thank you everyone for the great feedback on the topic.
I really appreciate it.
Irene

___________________________________
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Director of Academic Technology
Suffolk University Law School
120 Tremont Street
Boston, Massachusetts 02108
617-305-1772
irgood@suffolk.edu

_____

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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:17 PM
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Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Our faculty liked the Sympodiums and wanted to have annotation capability in
our new classrooms. The problem was that we switched to 16:9 aspect ratio
and Sympodiums did not support it. We installed Boeckeler systems and it
give us the added advantage of annotation over any source we hook up (DVD,
doc cam, guest laptop, etc.). In the last couple of weeks Extron announced
a new product that I would have considered had it been available. Below are
links to both systems:

http://www.pointmaker.com/cms/index.cfm/path/17933/41897/42751/

http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=annotator

&subtype=290

Regards,

Dan

RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television commentators use telestrators.
Ken

ken.hirsh@uc.edu
(513) 556-0159

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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
both at the same time.

-Stuart

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a demonstration
> of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids archives and
> I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for sharing
> your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear projection. I'm
> wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
>
> Thanks for any information you can provide.
> Irene
>
> ___________________________________
> Irene R. Good
> Director of Academic Technology
> Suffolk University Law School
> 120 Tremont Street
> Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> 617-305-1772
> irgood@suffolk.edu
>
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.

thanks,

Mohyeddin

Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
Director of Information Technology
University of Arizona
James E. Rogers College of Law

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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)
Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television commentators use telestrators.
Ken

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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart Sierra
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
both at the same time.

-Stuart

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a demonstration
> of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids archives and
> I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for sharing
> your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear projection. I'm
> wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
>
> Thanks for any information you can provide.
> Irene
>
> ___________________________________
> Irene R. Good
> Director of Academic Technology
> Suffolk University Law School
> 120 Tremont Street
> Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> 617-305-1772
> irgood@suffolk.edu
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

We have more faculty using their own laptops in class in addition to a number adjuncts and guests. One of the drawbacks of bundling the presentation functionality into the podium machine rather than the podium is that it limits these users. Moving towards a tablet solution may limit those faculty who actually use the stuff, unless of course they all get upgraded to tablets. This is just the Windows side, we also have increasing number of Mac users.

Steve Nelson
stephen.nelson@marquette.edu
Marquette University Law School
Media & Technology Group
414.288.5534
414.213.9620 m
http://law.marquette.edu/jw/tech

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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:04 AM
To: Teknoids; Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to annotate, etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.

thanks,

Mohyeddin

Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
Director of Information Technology
University of Arizona
James E. Rogers College of Law

________________________________

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)
Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television commentators use telestrators.
Ken

ken.hirsh@uc.edu
(513) 556-0159

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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
both at the same time.

-Stuart

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a demonstration
> of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids archives and
> I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for sharing
> your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear projection. I'm
> wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
>
> Thanks for any information you can provide.
> Irene
>
> ___________________________________
> Irene R. Good
> Director of Academic Technology
> Suffolk University Law School
> 120 Tremont Street
> Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> 617-305-1772
> irgood@suffolk.edu
>
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Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I agree and to that end, we¹ve just equipped all of our rooms with liteshow
boxes!!!

Tom

P.s. Please go forth and steal all of our ideas, we hope to be presenting
this and all of our other ³cheap² ideas at CALI!

On 2/19/09 11:03 AM, "Mohyeddin Abdulaziz" <abdulaziz@law.arizona.edu>
wrote:

> I agree with Ken but I think using a Tablet PC with a projector to annotate,
> etc. may be more practical and flexible than smart boards.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mohyeddin
>
> Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
> Director of Information Technology
> University of Arizona
> James E. Rogers College of Law
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Hirsh, Kenneth
> (hirshkh)
> Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 8:36 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods may call
> for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my experience is in law
> teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where a schematic is on the screen
> and the instructor wants to highlight a feature on the schematic. In such a
> case a "smart board" (not sure of the generic name for such equipment) makes
> it easy to circle or highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is
> viewing a video and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again
> the instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television commentators
> use telestrators.
> Ken
>
> ken.hirsh@uc.edu
> (513) 556-0159
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart Sierra
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards
>
> Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a
> student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from
> so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure
> out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
> It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and
> in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use
> both at the same time.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
>> > Hello everyone,
>> > At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
>> demonstration
>> > of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the teknoids archives >>
and
>> > I know there has been much written on this topic. Thank you all for
>> sharing
>> > your experience with tablets, Sympodium, and front and rear projection. >>
I'm
>> > wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any information you can provide.
>> > Irene
>> >
>> > ___________________________________
>> > Irene R. Good
>> > Director of Academic Technology
>> > Suffolk University Law School
>> > 120 Tremont Street
>> > Boston, Massachusetts 02108
>> > 617-305-1772
>> > irgood@suffolk.edu
>> >
>> >
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RE: Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Following up on my own note, I suppose "touch screen" is the generic name.
Ken

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To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

I will respectfully disagree with Stuart. Different teaching methods may call for a variety of technologies in the classroom. While my experience is in law teaching, I can easily imagine an EE class where a schematic is on the screen and the instructor wants to highlight a feature on the schematic. In such a case a "smart board" (not sure of the generic name for such equipment) makes it easy to circle or highlight a point on the image. Too, if a class is viewing a video and a very small part of the screen should be watched, again the instructor can annotate the screen, much as sports television commentators use telestrators.
Ken

ken.hirsh@uc.edu
(513) 556-0159

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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:31 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Intelliboard/Smart Boards

Maybe not what you were looking for, Irene, but... Speaking as a student (in computer science) I've never seen any benefit from so-called "smart" boards. Even computer science Ph.D's can't figure out how to use them. A plain old chalkboard is so much more useful.
It's annoying when a prof. has to switch between prepared slides and in-class notes on the one and only screen. You need to be able to use both at the same time.

-Stuart

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Irene Good <irgood@suffolk.edu> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> At AALS in January one of the Associate Deans at Suffolk saw a
> demonstration of INTELLIBOARD by Numonics Corp. I have searched the
> teknoids archives and I know there has been much written on this
> topic. Thank you all for sharing your experience with tablets,
> Sympodium, and front and rear projection. I'm wondering if anyone has used this product or has any knowledge of this.
>
> Thanks for any information you can provide.
> Irene
>
> ___________________________________
> Irene R. Good
> Director of Academic Technology
> Suffolk University Law School
> 120 Tremont Street
> Boston, Massachusetts 02108
> 617-305-1772
> irgood@suffolk.edu
>
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