Firefox 3.5 is out

Folks,
Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
try Firefox now.

Elmer.

Comments

RE: Firefox 3.5 is out

Frankly, I find Internet Explorer to be very convenient. Using Firefox means I have to manually install all that spyware, and that just takes too much time out of each browsing session of each day. With IE, I can surf the Interweb with little or no noticeable timeouts for manual installation of any software, and all of my school and client files are completely transparent to the world! Firefox and Chrome be damned!

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Criminal Justice Program Chair
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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Elmer Masters
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:46 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: [teknoids] Firefox 3.5 is out

Folks,
Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
try Firefox now.

Elmer.

Firefox 3.5 is out

I am becoming a promiscuous browser user. I use Chrome for my
practice-related webapps, since its isolated tabs make it very crash-proof.
Firefox is for general browsing, blogging, etc., since Chrome still gets one
or two things wrong every now and then. IE is just for checking my other
Feedburner account, so I don't have to log out and back in in Firefox.

Haven't really played with Opera, though.

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Firefox 3.5 is out

And naturally, the new version breaks a few things. I received an
email from LibX.org telling me that I need to go and test the my LibX
toolbars to see if they will work with 3.5. I wonder what else won't
work. Oh well.

Steve Melamut

Elmer Masters wrote:
> Folks,
> Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
> upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
> plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
> using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
> resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
> If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
> try Firefox now.
>
> Elmer.
>
>

RE: Firefox 3.5 is out

I notice Jureeka (the one that parses pages for case citations and attempts to create working hyperlinks) is broken by 3.5.

My main use of IE is to keep hitting the refresh button, until whatever I'm coding finally looks right in IE. When I remember to...

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Melamut
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:57 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Firefox 3.5 is out

And naturally, the new version breaks a few things. I received an
email from LibX.org telling me that I need to go and test the my LibX
toolbars to see if they will work with 3.5. I wonder what else won't
work. Oh well.

Steve Melamut

Elmer Masters wrote:
> Folks,
> Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
> upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
> plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
> using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
> resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
> If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
> try Firefox now.
>
> Elmer.
>
>
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RE: Firefox 3.5 is out

Or Chrome for that matter!

The so-called "Browser Wars" is the only kind of "war" I can think of that only has positive outcomes for everyone involved.

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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Elmer Masters
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:46 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: [teknoids] Firefox 3.5 is out

Folks,
Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
try Firefox now.

Elmer.

Firefox 3.5 is out

The biggest problem is they do not write 64 bit extensions. We upgraded 38 machines this year to W7. 64 bit because we have 4 Gigs of RAM. We still install Firefox 64 bit, because some people like it, but if they don't support the inevitable evolution to 64 bit, screw them..... Sorry buddies, I was on a platform right there, but holding telling the truth.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Firefox 3.5 is out (Steven Melamut)
2. RE: Fwd: [WebAIM] [Fwd: National Federation of the Blind and
American Council of the Blind File Discrimination Suit
AgainstArizona State University] (Morris, Kimberli)
3. RE: Firefox 3.5 is out (Joseph Bazan)
4. Re: Fwd: [WebAIM] [Fwd: National Federation of the Blindand
American Council of the Blind File Discrimination
SuitAgainstArizona State University] (Tom Ryan)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:56:52 -0400
From: Steven Melamut <melamut@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Firefox 3.5 is out
To: Teknoids <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <4A4A5FF4.3030404@email.unc.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

And naturally, the new version breaks a few things. I received an
email from LibX.org telling me that I need to go and test the my LibX
toolbars to see if they will work with 3.5. I wonder what else won't
work. Oh well.

Steve Melamut

Elmer Masters wrote:
> Folks,
> Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
> upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
> plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
> using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
> resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
> If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
> try Firefox now.
>
> Elmer.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:59:48 -0400
From: "Morris, Kimberli" <kam59@dsl.psu.edu>
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Fwd: [WebAIM] [Fwd: National Federation of the
Blind and American Council of the Blind File Discrimination Suit
AgainstArizona State University]
To: "Teknoids" <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
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"Letting this argument prevail would really put a damper on
technological development in education."

Okay, at first glance, I get that. But then, development for whom?

I may be mixing my teknoids hat with my progressive librarian hat - but
I think that reactions similar to that (my own included!) are exactly
why such suits need to be brought. Why should the sight impaired be
forced to wait for a retro-fit when this could have easily been built
accessibly from the ground up? I think the suit at least brings to the
forefront of discussion that, where possible, technological developments
in education need to benefit all, not increase the advantage some
already have. I don't think that's always possible, but university's
especially need to use their clout to push in that direction.

I'll be the first to acknowledge that I'm not sure how much more in
development $ costs and time costs Amazon would have had to put in to
make it's interface accessible.

_______________________________

Kimberli A. Morris

Penn State Dickinson School of Law
216 Lewis Katz Building / University Park, PA 16802
phone: 814.863.0885 / fax: 814.867.0404 / e-mail: kam59@dsl.psu.edu

http://www.personal.psu.edu/kam59/blogs/biblio-files/blog/

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Elmer
Masters
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Fwd: [WebAIM] [Fwd: National Federation of the
Blind and American Council of the Blind File Discrimination Suit
AgainstArizona State University]

Not to be insensitive or anything, but shouldn't they also be suing the
university to prevent them from deploying print textbooks on exactly the
same grounds? There is nothing that requires Amazon to make the Kindle
accessible to the vision impaired. I would think that so long as the
university made the same materials available to the vision impaired
students, there is no real problem. Letting this argument prevail would
really put a damper on technological development in education."

Elmer.

Web guy at teknoids.net

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:48 AM, steven perkins <scperkins@gmail.com>
wrote:

For those schools looking to get on the Kindle bandwagon see this
message.

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Subject: National Federation of the Blind and American Council of the
Blind File Discrimination Suit Against Arizona State University
From: "Lissner, Scott" <Lissner.2@OSU.EDU>
Date: Fri, June 26, 2009 1:34 pm
To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU
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National Federation of the Blind and American Council of the Blind File
Discrimination Suit Against Arizona State University
6/25/2009
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT:
Chris Danielsen
Director of Public Relations
National Federation of the Blind
(410) 659-9314, extension 2330
(410) 262-1281 (Cell)
cdanielsen@nfb.org
National Federation of the Blind and
American Council of the Blind
File Discrimination Suit Against Arizona State University
University's Amazon Kindle DX Pilot Program
Discriminates Against the Blind
Baltimore, Maryland (June 25, 2009): The National Federation of the
Blind (NFB) and the American Council of the Blind (ACB) filed suit today
against Arizona State University (ASU) to prevent the university from
deploying Amazon's Kindle DX electronic reading device as a means of
distributing electronic textbooks to its students because the device
cannot be used by blind students.

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:01:04 -0500
From: Joseph Bazan <jbazan@msbcollege.edu>
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Firefox 3.5 is out
To: Teknoids <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
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Frankly, I find Internet Explorer to be very convenient. Using Firefox means I have to manually install all that spyware, and that just takes too much time out of each browsing session of each day. With IE, I can surf the Interweb with little or no noticeable timeouts for manual installation of any software, and all of my school and client files are completely transparent to the world! Firefox and Chrome be damned!

Joseph R Bazan, JD
Legal Program Chair
Criminal Justice Program Chair
Minnesota School of Business
1201 - 2nd Street South, Waite Park, MN?? 56387
jbazan@msbcollege.edu
http://www.msbcollege.edu/campus-locations/st-cloud-mn/
(320) 257-2035
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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Elmer Masters
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:46 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: [teknoids] Firefox 3.5 is out

Folks,
Firefox 3.5 is out of beta. If you're a FF user, you really need this
upgrade. Visit www.mozilla.com for the download. Most extensions and
plugins have been upgraded, so there is no reason to wait. I've been
using 3.5 for a over a month and it is a lot faster, uses less
resources, and is more stable than previous releases.
If you're still stuck on Internet Explorer, do yourself a favor and
try Firefox now.

Elmer.

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:02:35 -0400
From: Tom Ryan <tomryan@camlaw.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Fwd: [WebAIM] [Fwd: National Federation of the
Blindand American Council of the Blind File Discrimination
SuitAgainstArizona State University]
To: Teknoids <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <C66FD98B.1EE2%tomryan@camlaw.rutgers.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I too wondered about the text to speech functionality, perhaps this is a
push to get that back..

Of course, there are other disabilities then that could be disadvantaged...

On 6/30/09 2:59 PM, "Morris, Kimberli" <kam59@dsl.psu.edu> wrote:

> ?Letting this argument prevail would really put a damper on technological
> development in education.?
>
> Okay, at first glance, I get that. But then, development for whom?
>
> I may be mixing my teknoids hat with my progressive librarian hat ? but I
> think that reactions similar to that (my own included!) are exactly why such
> suits need to be brought. Why should the sight impaired be forced to wait for
> a retro-fit when this could have easily been built accessibly from the ground
> up? I think the suit at least brings to the forefront of discussion that,
> where possible, technological developments in education need to benefit all,
> not increase the advantage some already have. I don?t think that?s always
> possible, but university?s especially need to use their clout to push in that
> direction.
>
> I?ll be the first to acknowledge that I?m not sure how much more in
> development $ costs and time costs Amazon would have had to put in to make
> it?s interface accessible.
>
> _______________________________
> Kimberli A. Morris
> Penn State Dickinson School of Law
> 216 Lewis Katz Building / University Park, PA 16802
> phone: 814.863.0885 / fax: 814.867.0404 / e-mail: kam59@dsl.psu.edu
>
> http://www.personal.psu.edu/kam59/blogs/biblio-files/blog/
>
>
>
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Elmer Masters
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Fwd: [WebAIM] [Fwd: National Federation of the Blind
> and American Council of the Blind File Discrimination Suit AgainstArizona
> State University]
>
> Not to be insensitive or anything, but shouldn't they also be suing the
> university to prevent them from deploying print textbooks on exactly the same
> grounds? There is nothing that requires Amazon to make the Kindle accessible
> to the vision impaired. I would think that so long as the university made the
> same materials available to the vision impaired students, there is no real
> problem. Letting this argument prevail would really put a damper on
> technological development in education.?
>
>
>
> Elmer.
>
> Web guy at teknoids.net
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:48 AM, steven perkins <scperkins@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those schools looking to get on the Kindle bandwagon see this message.
>
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: National Federation of the Blind and American Council of the
> Blind File Discrimination Suit Against Arizona State University
> From: "Lissner, Scott" <Lissner.2@OSU.EDU>
> Date: Fri, June 26, 2009 1:34 pm
> To: DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> National Federation of the Blind and American Council of the Blind File
> Discrimination Suit Against Arizona State University
> 6/25/2009
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> CONTACT:
> Chris Danielsen
> Director of Public Relations
> National Federation of the Blind
> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
> (410) 262-1281 (Cell)
> cdanielsen@nfb.org
> National Federation of the Blind and
> American Council of the Blind
> File Discrimination Suit Against Arizona State University
> University's Amazon Kindle DX Pilot Program
> Discriminates Against the Blind
> Baltimore, Maryland (June 25, 2009): The National Federation of the
> Blind (NFB) and the American Council of the Blind (ACB) filed suit today
> against Arizona State University (ASU) to prevent the university from
> deploying Amazon's Kindle DX electronic reading device as a means of
> distributing electronic textbooks to its students because the device
> cannot be used by blind students.
>
>
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