IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority) as
opposed to Verisgn?
If so, I would appreciate your confirmation (on in the alternative - why to
avoid using these other services) as support for an argument to switch to
these certificates as opposed to the rather expensive Verisign
Certificates.

I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free - is
worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable
organization.
However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and is very
reliable.

Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the price you
pay argument?

Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.

Comments

IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

We've used IPSCA certificates at Texas Wesleyan for about seven years. They
work well most of the time, but their root CA certificate is not included in
some operating systems, specifically those in some hand-held computers. This
can create some support calls from those users, who will need to download the
root CA cert from IPSCA. Also, I've noticed that the screening of applicants
for certificates is more thorough with VeriSign and Thawte. I don't agree
that anything you get for nothing is worth nothing. We've saved thousands of
dollars using IPSCA certs. -G.

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "E.H. Uwe Beltz" <ubeltz@gmail.com>
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Sent: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:52:00 -0500
Subject: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

> Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority)
> as opposed to Verisgn? If so, I would appreciate your confirmation
> (on in the alternative - why to avoid using these other services) as
> support for an argument to switch to these certificates as opposed
> to the rather expensive Verisign Certificates.
>
> I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free -
> is worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable
organization.
> However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and
> is very reliable.
>
> Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the
> price you pay argument?
>
> Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.
>

RE: IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

We've transitioned all of our certificates over to IPSCA and have had no trouble with any of them. We've been using them for about three years now.

-> Thayer

-----------------------------------------------
Thayer York - CompTIA Security+, MCSE: Security
Desktop Environment Administrator
Computing Services - University of Washington School of Law

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of E.H. Uwe Beltz
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:52 AM
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Subject: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority) as opposed to Verisgn?
If so, I would appreciate your confirmation (on in the alternative - why to avoid using these other services) as support for an argument to switch to these certificates as opposed to the rather expensive Verisign Certificates.

I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free - is worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable organization.
However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and is very reliable.

Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the price you pay argument?

Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.

--
E.H. Uwe "Ed" Beltz, JD, MSLS
Associate Director for Law Library and Computing
Texas Tech University Law Library
1802 Hartford Ave
Lubbock, TX 79409
phone: 806-742-3990 extension 286
uwe.beltz@ttu.edu

IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

We too are using ipsCA certs here at UNC (home of the championship
Heels, I might add!!), and we love 'em. No problems at all.

Doug

RE: IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

We are big fans of Comodo as a certificate authority.

Comodo offers 5 year certificates.

We are currently using their 5 year wildcard SGC certificate for most of
our SSL enabled services.

There price is good $1700 for the wildcard and $30 for each additional
server we install the wildcard certificate on.
They also offer individual server certificates at about $100 a year.

We were paying about $1000 per server through VeriSign per year.

Another plus about Comodo is that their support is very quick on
responding to issues. They have helped us install the certificate on a
number of different platforms (apache, IIS, tomcat).

We were a VeriSign shop before.

Comodo claims that they are number two in the industry and are willing
to give deals to VeriSign customers.

We purchased their PKI and are now able to issue are own certificates
when we need them.

The only issue I have seen is with Datatel.
Datatel says in their documentation that they will only support VeriSign
certificates. Is anybody using another CA for their Datatel
certificates?
We are currently still using VeriSign for our Datatel system.

----

Nicholas Urrea

Information Technology

UC Hastings College of the Law

urrean@uchastings.edu

x4718

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Thayer
York
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:55 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

We've transitioned all of our certificates over to IPSCA and have had no
trouble with any of them. We've been using them for about three years
now.

-> Thayer

-----------------------------------------------

Thayer York - CompTIA Security+, MCSE: Security

Desktop Environment Administrator

Computing Services - University of Washington School of Law

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of E.H. Uwe
Beltz
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:52 AM
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Subject: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority) as
opposed to Verisgn?

If so, I would appreciate your confirmation (on in the alternative - why
to avoid using these other services) as support for an argument to
switch to these certificates as opposed to the rather expensive Verisign
Certificates.

I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free - is
worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable
organization.

However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and is
very reliable.

Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the price
you pay argument?

Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.

RE: IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

I haven't had any problems with our ipsCA certs, I've even switched all our
old Thawte certs to them to save a ton of money. It's been a few years
since I bought one, but I think we were paying about $149/yr with Thawte
certs even with the discounted PKI pricing.

-Mike

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of E.H. Uwe Beltz
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:52 PM
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Subject: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority) as
opposed to Verisgn?

If so, I would appreciate your confirmation (on in the alternative - why to
avoid using these other services) as support for an argument to switch to
these certificates as opposed to the rather expensive Verisign Certificates.

I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free - is
worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable
organization.

However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and is very
reliable.

Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the price you
pay argument?

Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.

RE: IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Mercer has been using IPSCA for several years without any problems. Even back when you were here, Ed.

Jonathan B. Davis
Systems Manager
Mercer University - Walter F. George School of Law
www.law.mercer.edu
davis_jb@law.mercer.edu
(478) 301-2181

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of E.H. Uwe Beltz
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:52 PM
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Subject: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority) as opposed to Verisgn?
If so, I would appreciate your confirmation (on in the alternative - why to avoid using these other services) as support for an argument to switch to these certificates as opposed to the rather expensive Verisign Certificates.

I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free - is worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable organization.
However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and is very reliable.

Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the price you pay argument?

Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.

--
E.H. Uwe "Ed" Beltz, JD, MSLS
Associate Director for Law Library and Computing
Texas Tech University Law Library
1802 Hartford Ave
Lubbock, TX 79409
phone: 806-742-3990 extension 286
uwe.beltz@ttu.edu

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RE: IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

The IPSCA free SSL works fine for New England School of Law.

From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of E.H. Uwe Beltz
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:52 PM
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Subject: [teknoids] IPSCA or other SSL certificate authorities

Are you using the IPSCA (or other similar SSL Certificate authority) as opposed to Verisgn?
If so, I would appreciate your confirmation (on in the alternative - why to avoid using these other services) as support for an argument to switch to these certificates as opposed to the rather expensive Verisign Certificates.

I understand the main argument to be that anything you get for free - is worth just that - and Versign is supposedly a more sound/stable organization.
However - it seems that IPSCA has been around quite some time and is very reliable.

Are there any technical reasons to avoid IPSCA - or is it only the price you pay argument?

Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.

--
E.H. Uwe "Ed" Beltz, JD, MSLS
Associate Director for Law Library and Computing
Texas Tech University Law Library
1802 Hartford Ave
Lubbock, TX 79409
phone: 806-742-3990 extension 286
uwe.beltz@ttu.edu