Laptop backups

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers, particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

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RE: Laptop backups

Ben,

Just curious as to the issues driving you away from iFolder. We've
found it to be highly effective so far, and had been planning to migrate
the service from its current proprietary NetWare platform to Suse.

Best,

Greg

Greg Mathes, Chief Technology Officer
University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law
3200 5th Ave. Sacramento, CA 95817
(Office) 916-739-7224
(Fax) 916-739-7388

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Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

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RE: Laptop backups

Greg,

My staff does not have much faith in iFolder. There have been a number of incidents where instead of syncing files from the server to the client, all the files on the server were deleted. I witnessed it myself to great shock and amusement. Granted, we are using an old version, 2.1. We are also in the process of migrating from Novell to AD. I realize we could implement it in AD as well, but is it worth it? Is the current version much better than 2.1? Have you had many issues with 3.8?

Thanks,
Ben

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Subject: RE: [teknoids] Laptop backups

Ben,

Just curious as to the issues driving you away from iFolder. We've
found it to be highly effective so far, and had been planning to migrate
the service from its current proprietary NetWare platform to Suse.

Best,

Greg

Greg Mathes, Chief Technology Officer
University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law
3200 5th Ave. Sacramento, CA 95817
(Office) 916-739-7224
(Fax) 916-739-7388

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Subject: [teknoids] Laptop backups

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

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Laptop backups

We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers, particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

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RE: Laptop backups

Jason,

Do you do anything to prevent data from being stored on the local hard drive? Do you redirect My Documents to a WebDAV share?

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We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers, particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

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RE: Laptop backups

No, we don't. We routinely remind faculty and staff that local data is not backed up in our newsletters/emails.

Jason

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Jason,

Do you do anything to prevent data from being stored on the local hard drive? Do you redirect My Documents to a WebDAV share?

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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups

We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers, particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

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RE: Laptop backups

Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a laptop
b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them saving
locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best answer
as we're an AD shop.
Happy New Year...
Cyndi

Cyndi Dean Johnson
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups

We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

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RE: Laptop backups

Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a laptop
b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them saving
locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best answer
as we're an AD shop.
Happy New Year...
Cyndi

Cyndi Dean Johnson
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bradley,
Jason
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups

We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

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RE: Laptop backups

I began by testing folder redirection combined with offline folders. It worked, but often generated errors that would cause concern among our faculty. I found that it worked much better with Windows 7, but we are still primarily an XP shop. Folder redirection and offline folders also do not help when faculty goes away over the summer and don't connect to the network for two and a half months, whereas Mozy Pro or Iron Mountain would provide protection during that time.

-Ben

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:02 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Laptop backups

Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a laptop
b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them saving
locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best answer
as we're an AD shop.
Happy New Year...
Cyndi

Cyndi Dean Johnson
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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Jason
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups

We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

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Laptop backups

Ben,

Just to throw another online backup alternative into the ring, we have been
doing testing of JungleDisk Workgroup for a while now. Jungledisk is owned
by Rackspace. Storage is in the Amazon cloud or on Rackspace's offering. The
JungleDisk business offering is $4.00 per user per month with the first 10GB
of storage free: https://jungledisk.com/business/ . It's then $0.15 per
GB-Month of storage after that. Assuming that the average user is backing up
30GB of data per month, that's $3.00 per user per month, for an average cost
of $7.00 per user per month. I expect that the actual numbers will be a bit
lower.

The JungleDisk software is not bad and is cross-platform. It's a relatively
flexible service - we previously coerced it into backing up our Linux boxes
via rsync; they now have a server-specific backup tool, which we're going to
look at.

We have historically required users to store their data on our server if
they want it backed up. However, I am coming around to the view that we need
to provide something for our traveling faculty. I am thinking of making it a
fee-for-service offering: I would charge users $100 per year per user or
something similar; I expect that this would even out over the long run.

Best,

Ben Chapman

On 1/6/10 2:51 PM, "Schwartz, Benjamin" <bschw@albanylaw.edu> wrote:

> I began by testing folder redirection combined with offline folders. It
> worked, but often generated errors that would cause concern among our faculty.
> I found that it worked much better with Windows 7, but we are still primarily
> an XP shop. Folder redirection and offline folders also do not help when
> faculty goes away over the summer and don't connect to the network for two and
> a half months, whereas Mozy Pro or Iron Mountain would provide protection
> during that time.
>
> -Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Cyndi
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:02 PM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: RE: [teknoids] Laptop backups
>
> Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
> people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a laptop
> b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them saving
> locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
> of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best answer
> as we're an AD shop.
> Happy New Year...
> Cyndi
>
> Cyndi Dean Johnson
> Assistant Dean for Information Technology
> UNM School of Law
> (505) 277-0695
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bradley,
> Jason
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups
>
> We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
> file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
> that up nightly.
>
> Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
> Director of Information Technology
> Vanderbilt University Law School
> 615.875.9428
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
> particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
> campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
> Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
> when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
>
> Benjamin Schwartz
> Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure
>
> 80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
> P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu
>
> Albany Law in New York's Capital.
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RE: Laptop backups

For those faculty who work on Desktops and Laptops, I've found that DropBox (http://dropbox.com) is a good solution. It synchronizes and backs up files across computers. Files can be worked on off line and then uploaded automatically when there is a network connection. Has the addition feature of being able to recover files deleted up to 30 days back. You can also view your files on your iPhone via a dropbox app.

The service is free to use for under 2GB ($10 / Month for 50GB), and runs on windows, mac and linux computers (I can vouch for its reliability on Windows XP, Vista, 7 & Mac OSX 10.5, 10.6).

Here's my review of DropBox from a few months ago: http://is.gd/5P1sc

Rich

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Subject: RE: [teknoids] Laptop backups

I began by testing folder redirection combined with offline folders. It worked, but often generated errors that would cause concern among our faculty. I found that it worked much better with Windows 7, but we are still primarily an XP shop. Folder redirection and offline folders also do not help when faculty goes away over the summer and don't connect to the network for two and a half months, whereas Mozy Pro or Iron Mountain would provide protection during that time.

-Ben

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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Cyndi
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:02 PM
To: Teknoids
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Laptop backups

Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a laptop
b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them saving
locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best answer
as we're an AD shop.
Happy New Year...
Cyndi

Cyndi Dean Johnson
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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[mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bradley,
Jason
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups

We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
that up nightly.

Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
Director of Information Technology
Vanderbilt University Law School
615.875.9428

On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:

Good afternoon,

We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?

Thanks,
Ben

Benjamin Schwartz
Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure

80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu

Albany Law in New York's Capital.
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Laptop backups

Cyndi,

Folder sync built into Windows does an alright job of keeping things in order. We don't use redirection much, only their "My Documents" folder gets mapped to a network drive, and has offline mode enabled. You do have to be careful, though. Users will save their itunes folder into My Documents and that can get massive quickly. This was a bigger problem on XP, as that is the 'catch all' folder for those sorts of things. On Vista and 7, the folders are split up (more unix-like).

Hope this helps.

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Webmaster
Florida Coastal School of Law
8787 Baypine Road
Jacksonville, FL 32256
p. (904) 680-7735
f. (904) 680-7616

On Jan 6, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Johnson, Cyndi wrote:

> Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
> people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a laptop
> b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them saving
> locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
> of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best answer
> as we're an AD shop.
> Happy New Year...
> Cyndi
>
> Cyndi Dean Johnson
> Assistant Dean for Information Technology
> UNM School of Law
> (505) 277-0695
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bradley,
> Jason
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups
>
> We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
> file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
> that up nightly.
>
> Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
> Director of Information Technology
> Vanderbilt University Law School
> 615.875.9428
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
> particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
> campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
> Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up laptops
> when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so, how?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
>
> Benjamin Schwartz
> Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure
>
> 80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
> P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu
>
> Albany Law in New York's Capital.
> Knowledge Empowers.
>
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RE: Laptop backups

Thanks, Nathan. I was thinking about setting up just their My Documents
to sync as that's what everyone uses. We already fight the itunes battle
b/c we use roaming profiles and know how quickly they can bloat. We
exclude many profile folders from writing back the server but have found
it just as easy to not give them enough rights to install it...then we
do it for them and set it up to save to their hard drive but not their
profiles.
Cyndi

Cyndi Dean Johnson
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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DeGruchy
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:13 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups

Cyndi,

Folder sync built into Windows does an alright job of keeping things in
order. We don't use redirection much, only their "My Documents" folder
gets mapped to a network drive, and has offline mode enabled. You do
have to be careful, though. Users will save their itunes folder into My
Documents and that can get massive quickly. This was a bigger problem
on XP, as that is the 'catch all' folder for those sorts of things. On
Vista and 7, the folders are split up (more unix-like).

Hope this helps.

--
Nathan DeGruchy
Webmaster
Florida Coastal School of Law
8787 Baypine Road
Jacksonville, FL 32256
p. (904) 680-7735
f. (904) 680-7616

On Jan 6, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Johnson, Cyndi wrote:

> Is anyone using folder redirection for laptops? We also try to get
> people to save to the FS but since the typical laptop user has a
laptop
> b/c they are frequently on travel, we run into problems with them
saving
> locally and then not copying to the network (or having multiple copies
> of the same document). Seems like folder redirection is the best
answer
> as we're an AD shop.
> Happy New Year...
> Cyndi
>
> Cyndi Dean Johnson
> Assistant Dean for Information Technology
> UNM School of Law
> (505) 277-0695
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> [mailto:teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bradley,
> Jason
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM
> To: Teknoids
> Subject: Re: [teknoids] Laptop backups
>
> We do not backup workstations or laptops. Data must be stored on our
> file server (which they can access remotely using WebDAV) and we back
> that up nightly.
>
> Jason Bradley, MCSE, MCTS
> Director of Information Technology
> Vanderbilt University Law School
> 615.875.9428
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Schwartz, Benjamin wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> We currently use Novell iFolder to backup faculty's laptop computers,
> particularly because it can perform backups when they are away from
> campus. We are looking to replace iFolder with something else, like
> Mozy Pro. Could people please share how they handle backing up
laptops
> when they are away from home? Do you back them up at all? If so,
how?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
>
> Benjamin Schwartz
> Associate Director, User Services and Network Infrastructure
>
> 80 New Scotland Ave | Albany, NY 12208
> P: 518.445.3350 | E-mail: bschw@albanylaw.edu
>
> Albany Law in New York's Capital.
> Knowledge Empowers.
>
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Laptop backups

UNC main campus has a license for Iron Mountain, and with the increase
in number of faculty laptops the last year or so, I've invested in
enough IM licenses to cover these mobile faculty. There's always the
VPN/mapped network drives solution, but getting faculty to do that is
just such an uphill battle. I'm resigned to them saving work locally on
laptops, so an enterprise, automated backup solution is key, IMHO. IM
does a decent job, even over DSL and cable, after the initial backup,
which is recommended only over a 10/100/1000 LAN for best results.

Doug