VU Telepresence?

Has anybody tried VU Telepresence, distributed by Zenith, as an
alternative to Polycom or Tandenburg videoconferencing? Supposedly it
is compatible with them, and a LOT less money, according to the salesman.

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Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

I'm facing an interesting issue.

We're currently a Bluesocket Wireless Network client, and have been mostly happy with hardware's performance.

Unfortunately, our current controllers were End of Lifed two years ago (a mere two years after our purchase) and I had to fight like the dickens to get them to extend the warranty an additional two years. Well... those two years are up, and I was all ready to purchase their next controller. However, they will not guarantee me in writing that they will support these controllers for 5 years. Now you know the "fool me once" saying...

So... I reached out to Aruba and found their policy and history is much more forgiving. They will EOL their first controller(released in 2003) next year and will continue to support it for 5 more years bringing the length of the investments usable life to 14-15 years. That sounds like a good value to me, as long as the other factors remain consistent - quality, cost, etc.

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Aruba Controller 3600, and Aruba AP-105? Most critical to us is requiring our student body to authenticate against AD, and obviously throughput, uptime, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Peter

Peter Stanisci
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
Touro Law Center
225 Eastview Drive
Central Islip, NY 11722
 
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RE: Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

We are currently using the Aruba Controller 3200 and the AP 125 access points. Our faculty, staff and students both authenticate to AD with no issues. We are running two domains: one for faculty & staff, and the other for students.

Frank King Jr., Director Information Technology
Howard University School of Law
2900 Van Ness
Washington DC 20008

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Subject: [teknoids] Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

I'm facing an interesting issue.

We're currently a Bluesocket Wireless Network client, and have been mostly happy with hardware's performance.

Unfortunately, our current controllers were End of Lifed two years ago (a mere two years after our purchase) and I had to fight like the dickens to get them to extend the warranty an additional two years. Well... those two years are up, and I was all ready to purchase their next controller. However, they will not guarantee me in writing that they will support these controllers for 5 years. Now you know the "fool me once" saying...

So... I reached out to Aruba and found their policy and history is much more forgiving. They will EOL their first controller(released in 2003) next year and will continue to support it for 5 more years bringing the length of the investments usable life to 14-15 years. That sounds like a good value to me, as long as the other factors remain consistent - quality, cost, etc.

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Aruba Controller 3600, and Aruba AP-105? Most critical to us is requiring our student body to authenticate against AD, and obviously throughput, uptime, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Peter

Peter Stanisci
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
Touro Law Center
225 Eastview Drive
Central Islip, NY 11722
 
EMail:    PStanisci@tourolaw.edu
Phone:   (631)  761 - 7075
Cell:       (631)  708 - 6414
Fax:        (631)  421 - 2675
 
Support:
EMail:   IT@tourolaw.edu
Phone:  (631)  761 - 7070

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Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

On 4/20/2012 10:45 AM, Peter Stanisci wrote:
> We're currently a Bluesocket Wireless Network client, and have been
> mostly happy with hardware's performance.

We're also running Bluesocket; our BSCs were EOL'd recently, and we
replaced them with newer BSCs at the same level. As I recall, they came
in around the same price as the originals, and we'd had those for the
better part of a decade (when we bought them, they were actually WGs
instead of BSCs). They're much better hardware, with second processors
so they can separate the management and everything else from the
enforcement (which has its own dedicated processor).

I'm not worried about the lifetime of the BSCs, but I am concerned about
the recent acquisition by Adtran, so I've started looking at Aruba, as
well. (I haven't had to to get very deeply into it, but I still have
some time before I need to renew on what we have.) Fortunately, the
vendor where we bought our BSCs and BSAPs also deals in Aruba, so that
transition shouldn't be too bad.

One thing we are using consistently on the BSCs is Bluesocket's
API--that's how we keep students off the wireless network during class
sessions (which is another discussion entirely), so any replacement we
consider needs to have similar functionality. Well, that and VLAN by
SSID with a mixture of WPA2-PSK and 802.1x authentication, and
hot-and-cold-running-VLANS (we have eight of them, and that's just
because BSAPs are limited to eight SSIDs).

Personally, I am not at all interested in a cloud solution--I want
hardware in my equipment rack...

James

James P. Callison, MCP+I, MCSE
Systems Administrator
The University of Oklahoma Law Center ITS
callison@ou.edu
I'm sleepin' in my leggin's tonight
My night horse is tied by my side
When lightning cracks and thunder rolls
My mouth gets hot and dry
So I'm sleepin' in my leggin's tonight

RE: Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

We left Bluesocket for the same reason: no economical upgrade path. In our building that has our classrooms, we went with Aruba 3400-series controller and AP-105's. It was a new install this past January. We are mostly happy, but have one outstanding issue: During peak times 802.1x authentication is a little slow. We think it is a configuration problem, and have an open ticket with their support on it. Otherwise, we are happy with performance, and it serves some very dense areas. Cost for controller-based systems is pretty high, and Aruba is no exception. For us, it worked out to about $1000 per AP, if you average in the cost of the controller, the licenses, and the firewall licenses.

In our non-dense environments, like residence halls and staff/faculty offices, we with a non- controller-based system from Ubiquiti. Much cheaper. It saved us TONS not to roll out an expensive system to our residences. Average cost per AP? $75! It still can be managed through a central interface, including blocking misbehaving users, upgrading the firmware on the AP's, etc. You have to provide the server it runs on.

Phil Allred
CIO
Brooklyn Law School
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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu [teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Stanisci [pstanisci@tourolaw.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:45 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: [teknoids] Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

I'm facing an interesting issue.

We're currently a Bluesocket Wireless Network client, and have been mostly happy with hardware's performance.

Unfortunately, our current controllers were End of Lifed two years ago (a mere two years after our purchase) and I had to fight like the dickens to get them to extend the warranty an additional two years. Well... those two years are up, and I was all ready to purchase their next controller. However, they will not guarantee me in writing that they will support these controllers for 5 years. Now you know the "fool me once" saying...

So... I reached out to Aruba and found their policy and history is much more forgiving. They will EOL their first controller(released in 2003) next year and will continue to support it for 5 more years bringing the length of the investments usable life to 14-15 years. That sounds like a good value to me, as long as the other factors remain consistent - quality, cost, etc.

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Aruba Controller 3600, and Aruba AP-105? Most critical to us is requiring our student body to authenticate against AD, and obviously throughput, uptime, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Peter

Peter Stanisci
Assistant Dean for Information Technology
Touro Law Center
225 Eastview Drive
Central Islip, NY 11722

EMail: PStanisci@tourolaw.edu
Phone: (631) 761 - 7075
Cell: (631) 708 - 6414
Fax: (631) 421 - 2675

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Phone: (631) 761 - 7070

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RE: Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

Interesting...our campus is moving from Cisco APs to Aruba's. I'm not sure which one but can probably find out. We're adding more APs to our wireless this summer and are supposed to get all new Aruba's APs at that time but I can't speak to the controller side. I'll reach out to our networking group since they're the ones who manage all wireless.
Cyndi

Cyndi Johnson
Director/Assistant Dean for Information Technology
UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:46 AM
To: Teknoids
Subject: [teknoids] Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

I'm facing an interesting issue.

We're currently a Bluesocket Wireless Network client, and have been mostly happy with hardware's performance.

Unfortunately, our current controllers were End of Lifed two years ago (a mere two years after our purchase) and I had to fight like the dickens to get them to extend the warranty an additional two years. Well... those two years are up, and I was all ready to purchase their next controller. However, they will not guarantee me in writing that they will support these controllers for 5 years. Now you know the "fool me once" saying...

So... I reached out to Aruba and found their policy and history is much more forgiving. They will EOL their first controller(released in 2003) next year and will continue to support it for 5 more years bringing the length of the investments usable life to 14-15 years. That sounds like a good value to me, as long as the other factors remain consistent - quality, cost, etc.

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Aruba Controller 3600, and Aruba AP-105? Most critical to us is requiring our student body to authenticate against AD, and obviously throughput, uptime, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Peter

Peter Stanisci
Assistant Dean for Information Technology Touro Law Center
225 Eastview Drive
Central Islip, NY 11722
 
EMail:    PStanisci@tourolaw.edu
Phone:   (631)  761 - 7075
Cell:       (631)  708 - 6414
Fax:        (631)  421 - 2675
 
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RE: Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

I would highly recommend Meraki. We've used them for the past few years and they've been great. There's no on-premise controller and they're constantly adding new features to their cloud controller for free. They support authentication via AD, LDAP and RADIUS/NPS. Their web interface is very intuitive too and provides some great metrics on usage.

http://www.meraki.com

We too got burned by BlueSocket's EOL on their controllers which is one of the reasons we moved to Meraki. The only hardware we have on-premise is their APs.

Buddy Searcy | Associate Director of Information Technology
Florida Coastal School of Law | 904.680.7627 | bsearcy@fcsl.edu

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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:13 PM
To: 'Teknoids'
Subject: [teknoids] RE: Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

Interesting...our campus is moving from Cisco APs to Aruba's. I'm not sure which one but can probably find out. We're adding more APs to our wireless this summer and are supposed to get all new Aruba's APs at that time but I can't speak to the controller side. I'll reach out to our networking group since they're the ones who manage all wireless.
Cyndi

Cyndi Johnson
Director/Assistant Dean for Information Technology UNM School of Law
(505) 277-0695

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To: Teknoids
Subject: [teknoids] Wireless Networks - Aruba vs Bluesocket

I'm facing an interesting issue.

We're currently a Bluesocket Wireless Network client, and have been mostly happy with hardware's performance.

Unfortunately, our current controllers were End of Lifed two years ago (a mere two years after our purchase) and I had to fight like the dickens to get them to extend the warranty an additional two years. Well... those two years are up, and I was all ready to purchase their next controller. However, they will not guarantee me in writing that they will support these controllers for 5 years. Now you know the "fool me once" saying...

So... I reached out to Aruba and found their policy and history is much more forgiving. They will EOL their first controller(released in 2003) next year and will continue to support it for 5 more years bringing the length of the investments usable life to 14-15 years. That sounds like a good value to me, as long as the other factors remain consistent - quality, cost, etc.

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Aruba Controller 3600, and Aruba AP-105? Most critical to us is requiring our student body to authenticate against AD, and obviously throughput, uptime, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Peter

Peter Stanisci
Assistant Dean for Information Technology Touro Law Center
225 Eastview Drive
Central Islip, NY 11722
 
EMail:    PStanisci@tourolaw.edu
Phone:   (631)  761 - 7075
Cell:       (631)  708 - 6414
Fax:        (631)  421 - 2675
 
Support:
EMail:   IT@tourolaw.edu
Phone:  (631)  761 - 7070

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