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Fellow Noids:
At Iowa we support both MS Word and Corel Word Perfect for word processing. In 2007 we purchased our 2 year maintenance licenses in the 250-999 user range for ~$1200.00. Yesterday when I called to renew this maintenance contract I was told that they no longer have the "under 1000" option and you must purchase the 1000-4999 licensing at $1500.00 (list) for one year, or $2500 (list) for two years. You can also purchase individual licenses at $25.00 each but since we have 300+ users, this wouldn't work as a cost saving alternative.
Needless to say, this is double what we had budgeted for this renewal.
We're curious if other schools have run into this problem and if so how have you decided to handle it? Did you purchase at the new pricing? Have you started phasing out WP as a word processing option?
Any experiences you have to share regarding your use and continued support of WP would be very helpful.
Thank you.
APRYL
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Apryl R. Betts
Information Technology Department
University of Iowa - College of Law
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Updated from Corel
I just got verification from Corel that they will honor the previous renewal price until the end of 2010.
If you want to renew at the 250-999 enrolled student level, they will approve special pricing through CDWG.
The following is the text they sent me from the amended license pricing:
Corel no longer offers a 250-999 tier as part of the Corel Higher Education License Program.
Customers who previously purchased maintenance at that level are authorized to purchase at the 1000-4999 student level through to the end of 2010. Otherwise, they can purchase from Corel's transactional license program.
We will renew for another 2 years and plan what is best for the Law School next.
Dan
Word Perfect Licensing Change
We too were caught unprepared by this change in licensing. I called
the Corel licensing and informed them that the old license terms were
still live on their site and felt they should honor them. I have yet
to receive an answer.
They have since updated their website to no longer show that specific
pricing, it had previously been here:
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949
See here for the Google cache that was live until a few days ago:
http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:-S6TGXxkuqQJ:www.corel.com/servlet/...
Daniel Cantrell
Systems Group Manager, Academic Technologies
Duke University School of Law
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From: "Betts, Apryl R" <apryl-betts@uiowa.edu>
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Fellow Noids:
At Iowa we support both MS Word and Corel Word Perfect for word
processing. In 2007 we purchased our 2 year maintenance licenses in
the 250-999 user range for ~$1200.00. Yesterday when I called to renew
this maintenance contract I was told that they no longer have the
"under 1000" option and you must purchase the 1000-4999 licensing at
$1500.00 (list) for one year, or $2500 (list) for two years. You can
also purchase individual licenses at $25.00 each but since we have
300+ users, this wouldn't work as a cost saving alternative.
Needless to say, this is double what we had budgeted for this renewal.
We're curious if other schools have run into this problem and if so
how have you decided to handle it? Did you purchase at the new
pricing? Have you started phasing out WP as a word processing option?
Any experiences you have to share regarding your use and continued
support of WP would be very helpful.
Thank you.
APRYL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apryl R. Betts
Information Technology Department
University of Iowa - College of Law
RE: Word Perfect Licensing Change
Long, long ago Corel gave law schools licenses to WP 8.
David Lowe
Computer Services Librarian
Bounds Law Library
University of Alabama School of Law
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We too were caught unprepared by this change in licensing. I called the Corel licensing and informed them that the old license terms were still live on their site and felt they should honor them. I have yet to receive an answer.
They have since updated their website to no longer show that specific pricing, it had previously been here:
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949
See here for the Google cache that was live until a few days ago:
MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious: http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:-S6TGXxkuqQJ:www.corel.com/servlet/...
Daniel Cantrell
Systems Group Manager, Academic Technologies
Duke University School of Law
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:25:03 -0500
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Subject: [teknoids] Word Perfect Licensing Change
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Fellow Noids:
At Iowa we support both MS Word and Corel Word Perfect for word processing. In 2007 we purchased our 2 year maintenance licenses in the 250-999 user range for ~$1200.00. Yesterday when I called to renew this maintenance contract I was told that they no longer have the "under 1000" option and you must purchase the 1000-4999 licensing at $1500.00 (list) for one year, or $2500 (list) for two years. You can also purchase individual licenses at $25.00 each but since we have 300+ users, this wouldn't work as a cost saving alternative.
Needless to say, this is double what we had budgeted for this renewal.
We're curious if other schools have run into this problem and if so how have you decided to handle it? Did you purchase at the new pricing? Have you started phasing out WP as a word processing option?
Any experiences you have to share regarding your use and continued support of WP would be very helpful.
Thank you.
APRYL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apryl R. Betts
Information Technology Department
University of Iowa - College of Law
Word Perfect Licensing Change
Yes and microsoft gave us licenses to office 95! :)
On 10/8/09 2:19 PM, "David Lowe" <dlowe@law.ua.edu> wrote:
> Long, long ago Corel gave law schools licenses to WP 8.
>
> David Lowe
> Computer Services Librarian
> Bounds Law Library
> University of Alabama School of Law
>
> This email is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Any review
> or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the
> intended recipient or any retransmission without the consent of the sender is
> prohibited. The views or opinions expressed by the sender of this email are
> not necessarily those of the institution.
>
> ________________________________
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> From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Dan Cantrell
> Sent: Thu 10/8/2009 11:38 AM
> To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
> Subject: [teknoids] Re: Word Perfect Licensing Change
>
>
>
> We too were caught unprepared by this change in licensing. I called the Corel
> licensing and informed them that the old license terms were still live on
> their site and felt they should honor them. I have yet to receive an answer.
>
> They have since updated their website to no longer show that specific pricing,
> it had previously been here:
>
> http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949
>
> See here for the Google cache that was live until a few days ago:
>
> MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious:
> http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:-S6TGXxkuqQJ:www.corel.com/servlet/...
> ite/us/en/Content/1153321211949+site:corel.com+Home+%3E+Education+%3E+How+to+B
> uy+%3E+Higher+Education+Licensing+Program+%3E+Pricing&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
> lite/us/en/Content/1153321211949+site:corel.com+Home+%3E+Education+%3E+How+to+
> Buy+%3E+Higher+Education+Licensing+Program+%3E+Pricing&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=u
> s>
>
>
>
> Daniel Cantrell
> Systems Group Manager, Academic Technologies
> Duke University School of Law
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:25:03 -0500
> From: "Betts, Apryl R" <apryl-betts@uiowa.edu>
> Subject: [teknoids] Word Perfect Licensing Change
> To: "teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu"
> <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
> Message-ID:
> <405F5CB98828FA4E9720B6EC52211CEC0BC2107616@IOWAEVS09.iowa.uiowa.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Fellow Noids:
>
> At Iowa we support both MS Word and Corel Word Perfect for word processing. In
> 2007 we purchased our 2 year maintenance licenses in the 250-999 user range
> for ~$1200.00. Yesterday when I called to renew this maintenance contract I
> was told that they no longer have the "under 1000" option and you must
> purchase the 1000-4999 licensing at $1500.00 (list) for one year, or $2500
> (list) for two years. You can also purchase individual licenses at $25.00 each
> but since we have 300+ users, this wouldn't work as a cost saving alternative.
>
> Needless to say, this is double what we had budgeted for this renewal.
>
> We're curious if other schools have run into this problem and if so how have
> you decided to handle it? Did you purchase at the new pricing? Have you
> started phasing out WP as a word processing option?
>
> Any experiences you have to share regarding your use and continued support of
> WP would be very helpful.
>
> Thank you.
>
> APRYL
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Apryl R. Betts
> Information Technology Department
> University of Iowa - College of Law
>
Word Perfect Licensing Change
We were presented with the same numbers and are considering terminating our site license and in turn providing Word Perfect only as requested. We are in the process of surveying our users to find out the numbers; however, I would be surprised if more than 1/8 of our users "require" Word Perfect. If this proves to be the case, it would make more sense to pony up $25.00 a license.
tkm
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Georgia State University College of Law
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Word Perfect Licensing Change
I agree with Tom about the product spiral. I have not purchase a license
since WP12. I did purchase a few for faculty who asked for an updated
version. The university stopped years ago trying to obtain a site
license. I think the problems started when the company changed hands the
first time. Then educational users complained and the company came out
with a better pricing structure. Now it seems, the company is back again
pricing us out. To me it looks like a circle with up and downs, that
make very little marketing sense.
Jim Epting
Director, Computer Services
USC - School of Law
803-777-5106
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:32 -0400
From: Dan Cantrell <cantrell@law.duke.edu>
Subject: [teknoids] Re: Word Perfect Licensing Change
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
We too were caught unprepared by this change in licensing. I called
the Corel licensing and informed them that the old license terms were
still live on their site and felt they should honor them. I have yet
to receive an answer.
They have since updated their website to no longer show that specific
pricing, it had previously been here:
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949
See here for the Google cache that was live until a few days ago:
http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:-S6TGXxkuqQJ:www.corel.com/servlet/
Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949+site:corel.com+Home+%3E+Education+
%3E+How+to+Buy+%3E+Higher+Education+Licensing+Program+%3E+Pricing&cd=2&h
l=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Daniel Cantrell
Systems Group Manager, Academic Technologies
Duke University School of Law
------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:25:03 -0500
From: "Betts, Apryl R" <apryl-betts@uiowa.edu>
Subject: [teknoids] Word Perfect Licensing Change
To: "teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu"
<teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
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Fellow Noids:
At Iowa we support both MS Word and Corel Word Perfect for word
processing. In 2007 we purchased our 2 year maintenance licenses in
the 250-999 user range for ~$1200.00. Yesterday when I called to renew
this maintenance contract I was told that they no longer have the
"under 1000" option and you must purchase the 1000-4999 licensing at
$1500.00 (list) for one year, or $2500 (list) for two years. You can
also purchase individual licenses at $25.00 each but since we have
300+ users, this wouldn't work as a cost saving alternative.
Needless to say, this is double what we had budgeted for this renewal.
We're curious if other schools have run into this problem and if so
how have you decided to handle it? Did you purchase at the new
pricing? Have you started phasing out WP as a word processing option?
Any experiences you have to share regarding your use and continued
support of WP would be very helpful.
Thank you.
APRYL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apryl R. Betts
Information Technology Department
University of Iowa - College of Law
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From: "Terrance Manion" <terrance@gsu.edu>
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We were presented with the same numbers and are considering terminating
our site license and in turn providing Word Perfect only as requested.
We are in the process of surveying our users to find out the numbers;
however, I would be surprised if more than 1/8 of our users "require"
Word Perfect. If this proves to be the case, it would make more sense to
pony up $25.00 a license.
tkm
Terrance K. Manion, Director of IT, Instructor of Law, Librarian
Georgia State University College of Law
Need Technology Help? Contact the Technology Help Desk.
On Campus- 3-9111
Off Campus: 404-413-9108
Online: https://gsulaw2.gsu.edu/helpdesk/
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:01:11 -0400
From: Tom Ryan <tomryan@camlaw.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: [teknoids] Word Perfect Licensing Change
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We are not renewing either and will purchase one-off licenses as
needed..
Which, considering what their revisions bring, will not probably be that
many..
A once great product that has since jumped the shark.
Tom
On 10/8/09 12:57 PM, "Terrance Manion" <terrance@gsu.edu> wrote:
> We were presented with the same numbers and are considering
terminating our
> site license and in turn providing Word Perfect only as requested. We
are in
> the process of surveying our users to find out the numbers; however, I
would
> be surprised if more than 1/8 of our users "require" Word Perfect. If
this
> proves to be the case, it would make more sense to pony up $25.00 a
license.
> tkm
>
> Terrance K. Manion, Director of IT, Instructor of Law, Librarian
> Georgia State University College of Law
>
> Need Technology Help? Contact the Technology Help Desk.
> On Campus- 3-9111
> Off Campus: 404-413-9108
> Online: https://gsulaw2.gsu.edu/helpdesk/
>
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From: "David Lowe" <dlowe@law.ua.edu>
Subject: RE: [teknoids] Re: Word Perfect Licensing Change
To: "Teknoids" <teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
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Long, long ago Corel gave law schools licenses to WP 8.
David Lowe
Computer Services Librarian
Bounds Law Library
University of Alabama School of Law
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From: teknoids-bounces@ruckus.law.cornell.edu on behalf of Dan Cantrell
Sent: Thu 10/8/2009 11:38 AM
To: teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu
Subject: [teknoids] Re: Word Perfect Licensing Change
We too were caught unprepared by this change in licensing. I called the
Corel licensing and informed them that the old license terms were still
live on their site and felt they should honor them. I have yet to
receive an answer.
They have since updated their website to no longer show that specific
pricing, it had previously been here:
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949
See here for the Google cache that was live until a few days ago:
MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious:
http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:-S6TGXxkuqQJ:www.corel.com/servlet/
Satellite/us/en/Content/1153321211949+site:corel.com+Home+%3E+Education+
%3E+How+to+Buy+%3E+Higher+Education+Licensing+Program+%3E+Pricing&cd=2&h
l=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Daniel Cantrell
Systems Group Manager, Academic Technologies
Duke University School of Law
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:25:03 -0500
From: "Betts, Apryl R" <apryl-betts@uiowa.edu>
Subject: [teknoids] Word Perfect Licensing Change
To: "teknoids@ruckus.law.cornell.edu"
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Fellow Noids:
At Iowa we support both MS Word and Corel Word Perfect for word
processing. In 2007 we purchased our 2 year maintenance licenses in the
250-999 user range for ~$1200.00. Yesterday when I called to renew this
maintenance contract I was told that they no longer have the "under
1000" option and you must purchase the 1000-4999 licensing at $1500.00
(list) for one year, or $2500 (list) for two years. You can also
purchase individual licenses at $25.00 each but since we have 300+
users, this wouldn't work as a cost saving alternative.
Needless to say, this is double what we had budgeted for this renewal.
We're curious if other schools have run into this problem and if so how
have you decided to handle it? Did you purchase at the new pricing? Have
you started phasing out WP as a word processing option?
Any experiences you have to share regarding your use and continued
support of WP would be very helpful.
Thank you.
APRYL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apryl R. Betts
Information Technology Department
University of Iowa - College of Law
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RE: Word Perfect - New Poll?
All,
So we could get some firmer numbers on this, I created a poll on Teknoids:
http://ly.teknoids.net/node/9914
I set it to expire in 2 weeks, because we need to make a decision by then. If you could please take a second and cast your vote, we'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Bob Ramsey
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Word Perfect Licensing Change
We are not renewing either and will purchase one-off licenses as needed..
Which, considering what their revisions bring, will not probably be that
many..
A once great product that has since jumped the shark.
Tom
On 10/8/09 12:57 PM, "Terrance Manion" <terrance@gsu.edu> wrote:
> We were presented with the same numbers and are considering terminating our
> site license and in turn providing Word Perfect only as requested. We are in
> the process of surveying our users to find out the numbers; however, I would
> be surprised if more than 1/8 of our users "require" Word Perfect. If this
> proves to be the case, it would make more sense to pony up $25.00 a license.
> tkm
>
> Terrance K. Manion, Director of IT, Instructor of Law, Librarian
> Georgia State University College of Law
>
> Need Technology Help? Contact the Technology Help Desk.
> On Campus- 3-9111
> Off Campus: 404-413-9108
> Online: https://gsulaw2.gsu.edu/helpdesk/
>
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